多花幾百萬淪盤子 台灣車主衝特斯拉抗議 - 特斯拉

By Catherine
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大家好,我是美國的車主(Model 3) ,美國這邊也是討論得沸沸揚揚,看了好幾天
的官方討論區和Reddit我想提出幾個比較少被提及的點來跟大家討論。我會試著盡
量中立,但畢竟我是車主,可能還是會有些先入為主的想法。
首先先提美國情況跟台灣不一樣的地方:主要受影響的車主是Model 3為主, 降價後
的價差其實跟台灣比小很多,大約$3000~~$12000美金。(本文以下的價錢都是美金)
然後另外一個因素是去年的車主有$7500的聯邦稅補助(Tax Credit) ,今年車主僅
剩$3750。另外,Tesla已經提出補償方案,就是讓原有車主可以便宜購買AP與FSD
,兩個都已經購買的可以退款一千。其實我因為當初這兩個都沒買,是最大受益者
,所以也還算能接受Tesla 的這處理方法。不過這理論上與本文討論的點無關,畢
竟此文是討論”Tesla是否有必要補償原車主”而非”Tesla補償方案是否合理”。
以下進入正文,我挑幾個滿有趣的論點,主要是聚焦在跟一般購物不同的點上:
(當然最大的反方論點就是認為跟一般購物一樣,賣家降價或物品跌價合情合理的)
1.車子因為價值高,大部分人都是貸款或Lease,所以比較不能以”一次購買” 來
算價值,或是”擁有”的定義也比較模糊。美國很多車商賣車都不是著重在車價上
,而是以Lease 或 Loan的monthly payment來打廣告。(舉例: Get a brand new
2019 Honda Civic for only $200 a month!)。這邊或許台灣人比較難體會,或是
覺得即使是Loan/Lease也是用先訂好的車價去算,但我提個例子,兩年前我放$1000
訂金然後他們邀請我去試駕model S的時候,Sales一直跟我說Lease model S跟loan
model 3的monthly是一樣的,一直要我考慮買model S… 也就是說,Loan跟Lease上
這時你到底有沒有”擁有”這台車,是有點模糊的。所以這也意會著買車跟買其他
產品還是有一些差異的。
2.承上,AP/EAP/FSD這邊商品定義以及時間表一直變動或不清楚。這一點是Tesla最
站不住腳的點,也是為什麼Tesla的補償方案主要著力在這上面;因為這幾個產品定
義一直變,其中又有部分功能是”Coming soon”,這邊消費者花錢買了一個未來才
會有的東西,甚至不知道這東西到底包含啥,而這東西還沒出,這價錢就降了(*註)
。而且更糟的是,Tesla對這些自動駕駛的行銷就是,你訂車時買較便宜,之後加買
要加更多價。所以等於是你逼消費者先買一個他們還沒買到的東西,然後這個東西
降價。這跟一般買其他廠牌車子或是其他用品如手機的情況是差很多的。
*註: 價錢其實沒降,但跟車和在一起賣降價了。雖然這個有點模糊,但總之還是歸
到花了錢可是並沒有拿到所有的功能上面造成的疑慮跟不公平。
3.Tesla訂車到領車是要蠻長時間的,所以車價浮動會造成很多問題。當然這邊Tesla
是願意以新價錢計算,也可以免費退車,但這邊牽扯到更多問題,例如新價錢會不會
改變買家想買的配備、會不會願意多等時間、甚至還在鑑賞期內的怎麼算,這些都跟
一般購物的情況差很多。另外,各區域領車時間不同,也很容易造成車主間比價的不
公平。
4.Tesla的廣告行銷
a.Tesla定價: Tesla一直都以”不能討價還價”來做為廣告,讓你免去討價還價的麻
煩,好讓你確定你買的東西有他標價的價值,甚至有些東西是晚買會比先買貴。結果
Tesla自己改標價,還改挺多的…
b.EV保值: Tesla一直以EV比汽油車保值來做廣告。當這一點被他們自己破壞時,是
否有廣告不實的嫌疑?
c.Tax credit:去年末,Tesla一直用聯邦退稅即將減半來打廣告,很多車主包括我
都因此提早下訂(我是本來只想等35000的+glass roof, 晚點會再提),很多人甚至在
12/31那天去買展示/試乘車。結果才過兩個月,就降價超過Tax Credit減少的部分,
這部分雖然很難說廣告不實,但是的確會讓消費者有被欺騙的嫌疑。(這部分跟台灣
的情況並不太一樣,因為台灣車主並沒有理由一定要提早訂購,只能說台灣車主運氣
更差...)
d.Bait and switch: 抱歉我不知道這中文要翻什麼,主要也就是類似廣告不實,用
一些功能吸引你來買,結果發現這功能是假的,讓你花冤枉錢或是要另外多花錢。上
面提的AP/EAP/FSD是一個例子,另外premium package 跟不同電池 range 上也都有
類似問題。舉例來說,當時Tesla是說,$5000 premium package包含glass roof 跟
一堆有的沒的。買家(其實就是我)可能為了這個glass roof就花這五千塊。結果現在
突然改成Glass roof是標配,這樣算不算廣告不實? 當然隨著時間推移,有更新更好
更便宜的產品出來這不能算廣告不實,但因為這五千塊在去年是強迫中獎(不能不選)
,所以這邊就也是有點模糊。從另外一個角度來看,如果他今天推出的便宜版本是一
個全新的產品,其實完全站得住腳。但是偏偏這個產品是它們一開始就打著廣告的,
給大眾的$35000 model 3。這時,他現在產品定義跟當年產品定義的不同就會被放大
檢視。
其實整體來說我對這台車還挺滿意的,也有另外準備要分享心得,只是還沒寫完XD。
但我的確覺得Tesla的行銷有一些問題,常常over commit, 承諾做不到的事情,然後
又很愛把沒做好的東西先拿出來賣...雖然買家也算習以為常,但平常大家拿不到車
也就算了,把降價跟這些over commit的東西合在一起就難免被人質疑了。
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